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Which came first? The chicken or the egg on my face?

In which two parties who should know better attempt to debate the difference between satire and parody from memory.

  • masterofpigeons:

    Satire is special to my heart.

  • codejill:

    And parody, and the squishy part where satire and parody blend…

  • masterofpigeons:

    Can satire exist without parody?

  • codejill:

    I was just wondering that. ‘Cause they’re not the same thing, but I can’t quite think how to pull them apart either.

  • masterofpigeons:

    Without “poking fun at the form,” can you critique the idea?

  • codejill:

    I’m going to look this up. I’m really vague on all of it.

    OK, this is parody:
    a literary or musical work in which the style of an author or work is closely imitated for comic effect or in ridicule
    And this is satire:
    a literary work holding up human vices and follies to ridicule or scorn
  • masterofpigeons:

    I’ll give myself a B+ or an A- on my understanding of the ideas.

  • codejill:

    Ditto.

    I guess parody is a derivative work while satire is “parody” of actual life.

  • masterofpigeons:

    But we understand real life in story form! Or we tell stories in real-life form. Damn chickens and eggs always messing things up in my head.

  • codejill:

    OK, put that way, with chickens and eggs:

    Life
    is the chicken.
    Satire
    is the egg.
    Parody
    is green eggs & ham
  • masterofpigeons:

    No, no, no:

    Life
    is chickens and eggs.
    Satire
    is the chicken eating the egg.
    Parody
    is the egg hatching another egg.




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